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What does your ideal optometry practice look like?
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Hosted by Dr. Steve Vargo, this podcast, powered by IDOC, offers expert insights to help you grow your practice, enhance patient care, and so much more.
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4 days ago
4 days ago
22 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo tackles a scenario more and more doctors are running into: a patient sits down and says, "I looked this up on ChatGPT."
How do you respond without sounding defensive—or losing the patient's trust?
Drawing on recent research about AI and patient behavior, Steve unpacks an uncomfortable trend: patients are increasingly rating chatbot answers as more empathetic and trustworthy than their own doctor's. Research out of Penn State found that when AI disagreed with a physician's recommendation, patient confidence dropped—for the doctor, not the AI. Add in a growing share of patients who trust an app on their phone as much as their own provider, and it's clear something is shifting in the exam room.
If you've ever felt your authority questioned by a patient armed with an AI printout, this episode will challenge how you think about that moment—and offer a smarter way to respond that builds trust instead of eroding it.
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Aug 11, 2026
Aug 11, 2026
44 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo sits down with Susan Daly for a practical, no-nonsense conversation about one of the most guesswork-driven parts of running a practice: frame buying.
Steve and Susan unpack why most practices don't actually have a frame problem — they have a decision-making problem. Without clear processes, cadence, or data, frame buying tends to default to gut feel, favorite reps, or whoever's been there the longest. They talk through how to simplify the entire process down to something that could fit on an index card, why revenue-per-brand matters more than units sold, and how to build a healthier, more intentional relationship with reps instead of an exhausting or dysfunctional one.
This conversation goes beyond inventory management. It's about reducing complexity so opticians can give patients the time and attention that actually drives trust — and sales. Susan shares specific, tactical strategies from her merchandising background, including how to ask patients what they wish you carried, how often to reassess your assortment, and why a simple "try-on party" might be the fastest way to spot what's missing from your board.
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Aug 4, 2026
Aug 4, 2026
28 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo tackles a problem that quietly costs practices their best hires: a great candidate on paper who, a few months in, becomes quiet, hesitant, and error-prone.
Why does this happen?
Drawing on onboarding research and his own not-so-great first job experience (a training manual the size of a phone book), Steve unpacks the uncomfortable reality that most struggling new hires aren't a hiring mistake — they're an onboarding failure. He walks through the three things every new hire actually needs to succeed, the predictable emotional rollercoaster of someone's first 90 days, and the four most common onboarding mistakes well-meaning practices make without realizing it.
If you've ever wondered why a promising hire went from confident in the interview to silent in staff meetings, this episode will change how you think about their first 90 days — and give you a clearer way to set them up to stay.
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Jul 28, 2026
Jul 28, 2026
40 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo sits down with Corey Pinegar, founder of Team, for a grounded conversation about what AI actually means for optometry practices in 2026—beyond the hype and the fear.
Steve and Corey explore the "plant a flag in the middle" approach: using AI as an accelerant for the business side of practice—insurance verification, claims, scheduling support—while protecting the human relationships that patients actually care about. They discuss why the biggest AI failures aren't technology problems at all, but change management problems, and why so many practices are chasing "productivity theater" instead of asking what outcomes they actually want.
This conversation goes beyond tool selection or automation. It's about how doctors present change to already-burned-out teams, why staff are often using AI in the shadows whether practices have a policy or not, and how the right implementation can free doctors and their teams to simply be human with patients again. Corey shares real numbers from his own team's rollout, along with the coaching and buy-in strategies that made the difference between adoption and resistance.
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Jul 21, 2026
Jul 21, 2026
44 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo sits down with Dr. Josh Davidson—known throughout the Gulf South as the go-to doctor for dry eye and scleral lenses—to unpack how he built one of the largest dry eye centers in the country, without starting with a blank checkbook or a room full of machines.
How does a doctor become "the guy (or gal)" in their community?
Josh shares the real starting point: not equipment, not capital, but a handful of extra minutes spent explaining what's actually happening on a patient's eye. He and Steve dig into why patients equate that kind of attention with expertise, why chasing every piece of new technology can actually backfire on trust, and why some of his most loyal patients are ones who'd already been sold thousands of dollars in gadgets elsewhere before finding him. Josh also gets specific about what he tells associate doctors who want to build a specialty inside someone else's practice, and how local talks, parade floats, and even his kid's baseball team became some of his most effective brand-building tools.
If you've ever assumed you need the newest machine before you can specialize in something you're passionate about, this episode will change how you think about what actually builds a reputation—and a following—in your community.
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Jul 14, 2026
Jul 14, 2026
39 min
In this episode, Dr. Vargo sits down with Dr. Elizabeth Roush, a practice owner from Northeast Indiana, to discuss the transformative impact of annual retreats on leadership, teamwork, and business growth.
Dr. Roche explains the logistics, planning, and execution of successful annual retreats, sharing how they have become her staff's favorite day of the year. She delves into the themes, activities, and strategies that make these retreats effective, including team-building exercises, custom-tailored content, and the importance of fostering vulnerability and connection among staff.
Dr. Roche also provides insights on maintaining the momentum of retreat learnings throughout the year for sustained improvements in practice operations and patient care.
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Jul 7, 2026
Jul 7, 2026
38 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo sits down with Dr. Shannon Joseph for a conversation about one of the most overlooked revenue opportunities in eye care — the contact lens dropout.
Steve and Shannon explore why so many patients quietly stop wearing contacts and never bring it up again, why doctors aren't having the conversation either, and what happens to a practice when someone finally does. They dig into the assumptions patients carry — that they were told they couldn't wear contacts, that the technology hasn't changed, that nobody can fix what didn't work before — and how a few simple questions can unravel all of it.
This conversation goes beyond contact lens sales. It's about building the kind of patient experience that creates loyalty, drives referrals, and reminds doctors why they got into this work in the first place. Shannon shares how she's built a whole-team approach to re-engaging dropout patients — from the first phone call to the pre-test questionnaire to the exam room — and why fixing a problem a patient didn't even know they had is one of the most powerful things a practice can do.

Jun 30, 2026
Jun 30, 2026
50 min
In this episode, Dr. Steve Vargo sits down with Luke Mathers — optometrist, author, and stress resilience expert — for a conversation that challenges one of the most common assumptions in healthcare: that what you're feeling is burnout.
Luke spent 27 years in clinical optometry before following a personal health experience down a rabbit hole of evolutionary biology, neuroscience, and human behavior. What he discovered reshaped how he thinks about stress, exhaustion, and why so many high-achieving professionals feel stuck even when everything looks fine on the outside.
Steve and Luke explore Luke's framework for three distinct states that often get lumped together under the burnout label — burned out, bored out, and checked out — and why getting the diagnosis wrong means the treatment will fail.
They also dig into the business case for human connection, the neuroscience of why presence in the exam room changes patient outcomes, and what it actually means to recover on purpose rather than just waiting for things to slow down.
This conversation goes beyond stress management tips. It's about understanding what's really happening beneath the exhaustion — and finding your way back to the work that gave you a sense of purpose in the first place.

